All In God's Service...

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-naw-warren-jeffs-guilty-20110804,0,5668344.story


Apparently, this fella had numerous charges against him for years and this is the latest one that 'sticked'.

According to him and his followers (inspired by some 'great book'), he is the "Prophet, Seer and Revelator" of their church. And like other distant fellow 'men of the book' of theirs, they believe in polygamy and 'arranging celestial marriages between married men and teenage girls' (normal people call that 'child sexual abuse' which is what that idiot is convicted of this week).

That fella even recorded his acts, one of which (see above LA Times report) had him claiming that he 'perform this service in the name of... his deity' (that one nailed to wood I talk about) while performing his animal act. Presumably, that holy bastard was recording his acts for the benefit of his god - may be as proof of his great 'services' to his deity in case that all-knowing and all-powerful deity of his loses some of those abilities.

According to today's BBC report, the parents of those children were actually happy with what that fella did because they also believed that their children were 'servicing god'.

That is the problem when animals and idiots are given 'holy' excuses to do the stupidest and wildest things (and they think they are smarter than apes). Religion fits that bill perfectly. With those 'celestial' claims, both idiots and animals find their respective excuses easily - 'if some one says he is godly and he is doing it in the name of their god, then it must be okay' is how the stupid reasoning goes.

That is why those reports of more than 90% of the churches (they call them 'house of god') in the US having cases of child sexual abuses are most telling.

Imagine 90% of all households in the world having fathers (which is what they call their church leaders) sexually abusing their children? I am not sure such a thing is as prevalent even among apes and monkeys. And you will certainly not find that among the great civilisations (go see if 90% of Indian and Chinese families are like that).

So young chilren reading this mail, don't ever believe those people that go round telling others that their book is a 'book of god' and their book 'has only good effects on people'.

The above is one (of many reasons) why I call Chinamen that do that complete idiots.... (analogy: a blindman claiming the rope he is holding is an elephant does not make that rope an elephant. It only makes him an idiot).

p.s.
For Chinese children: one of the reasons why you will never see 90% of Chinese households having the kind of things above is because of the teachings of people like Confucius, Mencius and thousands of years of moral teachings coming out of the Chinese civilisation. We are all fortunate inheritors of those teachings. So, go read about the history of our people, their books (none of them arrogant enough to claim to contain 'words of god') and their teachings.

Only yellow fools full of themselves reading some one else's book that among others say that, at worst, chinamen do not exist and, at best, are rungs below the Jews, would go round telling others that their book is a 'great book of god'. And they think they are very sharp.

Yah, their ancestors were all useless half-child half-devil (as Kipling famously called them in his Whiteman's Burden) waiting for some whtiemen to bring those civilising 'words of god' to chinamen - chinamen not worth even the effort of one of people's many 'god messengers' so burden went to whitemen - and only they are sharp enough to 'get it'...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs

http://topics.cnn.com/topics/warren_jeffs


Polygamist leader Warren Jeffs found guilty of child sex abuse
Prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Warren Jeffs fathered a child with a 15-year-old girl and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl. They also played audio recordings in which Jeffs was heard instructing young women on how to please him sexually.

From the Associated Press
August 4, 2011, 3:08 p.m

A Texas jury convicted polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs of child sexual assault Thursday in a case stemming from two young followers he took as brides in what his church calls "spiritual marriages."

The 55-year-old head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints stood stone-faced as the verdict was read.

Jeffs, who acted as his own attorney, faces up to life in prison. The jury went immediately into sentencing proceedings. They had deliberated on a verdict for more than three hours.

Prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with a 15-year-old girl and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl. They also played audio recordings in which Jeffs was heard instructing young women on how to please him sexually.

Jeffs has claimed he was the victim of religious persecution. The FLDS, which has at least 10,000 members nationwide, is a radical offshoot of mainstream Mormonism. The church believes polygamy brings exaltation in heaven and that Jeffs is God's spokesman on earth.

Police had raided the group's remote West Texas ranch in April 2008, finding women dressed in frontier-style dresses and hairdos from the 19th century as well as seeing underage girls who were clearly pregnant. The call to an abuse hotline that spurred the raid turned out to be a hoax, and more than 400 children who had been placed in protective custody were eventually returned to their families.

But authorities brought charges against several men from the group, with Jeffs by far the highest-profile defendant.

Jeffs stood mute and expressionless, staring at the floor, for all but a few seconds of the half hour he was allotted for a closing argument on Thursday. At one point he mumbled, "I am peace," and said no more.

The only noise in the courtroom was the creaking of wooden benches brimming with spectators.

Prosecutors said the case had nothing to do with his church or his beliefs.

"You have heard the defendant make repeated arguments about religious freedoms," said lead prosecutor Eric Nichols. "Make no mistake, this case is not about any people, this case is not about any religion. It is about one individual, Warren Steed Jeffs, and his actions."

Prosecutors relied heavily on information found during the raid on the compound and after a traffic stop in Nevada in 2006, when Jeffs was arrested. Much of the material was discovered in a vault at the end of a secret passageway in the temple and another vault in an annex building.

"You might have asked yourselves," Nichols said, "a lot of people may ask, why would someone record sex? ... This individual considers himself to be the prophet. Everything he did, hour after hour, he was required to keep a record of that."

On one of the tapes played at the trial, Jeffs made a reference to "drawing close" or "being close," which authorities testified is how church members refer to sex. Two female voices said "OK."

"A good wife is trained for her husband and follows the spirit of peace," Jeffs was heard saying.

Another audio tape included Jeffs and the younger girl from a recording made in August 2006 at the Texas compound, according to testimony from Nick Hanna, a Texas Ranger involved in the 2008 raid.

Played in court, it was difficult to decipher, but Jeffs' and a female voice are heard. He says, "I perform this service in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen," then mentions the alleged victim by name. When she says something, he responds, "don't talk while praying." Several minutes of heavy breathing followed.

The jury wore headphones to better hear the recording and also followed a transcript. One female juror covered her face with her hand as she listened.

Jeffs represented himself after firing seven attorneys in the six months leading to the trial. He broke his courtroom silence with an objection marked by a nearly hourlong speech defending polygamy, and twice threatened the judge and the court with warnings of punishment from God.

He refused to cross-examine the state's witnesses, and delayed giving an opening statement until he began presenting his own defense. In that statement, he evoked images of the civil rights movement and mentioned former Mormon leader Joseph Smith Jr. He also asked the jury to remember constitutional guarantees of religious freedom.

The lone defense witness Jeffs called, church elder JD Roundy, spent about 10 minutes on the stand Thursday discussing FLDS history after 4½ hours of testimony Wednesday evening.

Jeffs failed three times to remove state District Judge Barbara Walther from the case, the last rejection coming even without a hearing. He claimed Walther was biased because she issued the warrant for the original raid and was frequently updated as it progressed.

Eleven other FLDS men were charged with crimes including sexual assault and bigamy. All seven of those who have been prosecuted were convicted, receiving prison sentences of between six and 75 years.


[Below is exchange with one of the recipients of above]

From: Long
To: CCK
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: All in god's service....

When we all die, our real eternal lives begin. We will not be judged on the colour of our skin or our cultural heritage. Here is a real testimony of a man who died and came back from Hell to tell the world the truth.

A logician will clearly listen and watch and compute the probability that Jesus is the God: even 10% chance based on his computations justify an insurance policy. becase the cost, if real, is infinitely costly.

http://www.baptizingfire.com/apps/videos/videos/show/14313968-christians-that-wound-up-in-hell-by-caramelo-brenes


From: CCK
To: Long
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: All in god's service....

Ya, people whiteman can go from earth to hell and back but chinamen like your ancestors so useless and cannot do the same (that's why only non-chinamen get to be holy prophets and messengers in people's book - chinamen more useless than you think).

Hah, luckily that white idiot forgot to bring his videocam along with him - more idiotic than Warren Jeffs. Which is where you chinaman has a great opportunity to 'out-shine' all of them.

I'd believe it when you bring your Sony videocam and your family with you on a similar trip and your whole ching gang return to show me what hell looks like. Then I'd lead the entire chinese race to brag about the 'great feat' of you chinaman. (Don't try that cheap 'aiyah I forgot my SD card lah' trick on us hor?)
And if your 'insurance policy' is too good for hell then you can always do a round-trip to heaven. Many chinamen will be all the happier with that greater feat. Imagine, after thousands of years we finally have a chinaman with abilities anywhere close to that of some other non-chinamen in your great book?

And why worry since you have your 'insurance policy'? Even if you end up being considered by your deity to be too low class to do that holy return act and cannot make it back, you'd still get to start your 'eternal life' that billions of other past and present chinamen cannot get to - what privilege...

And oh, in case your skin color finally does not matter to your deity (after those thousands of years of irrelevance) and you get to make that return trip, don't forget to bring back an updated version of that great book of yours with your great feat and name included. Then a chinaman would finally get to 'star' in that book (instead of me looking high and low for you in Noah's queue list and still cannot find. Which category are you under?)

If your deity considers your act too cheap for his edtitorial bother, you can always ask him to part Andromeda (or an equivalent) for you to cross on your way back to earth. Preceded, of course, by a huge supernova event to ensure the entire world would not miss that deitical show with you in starring role. Wah, then your tribe would look more impressive than the one for whom a small sea was parted hor?

I have more ideas inspired by your book for you to show off with but would rather not bother an as yet deitical nonenity with too much trouble. Show me some of the above first...


From: Long
To: CCK
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: All in god's service....

This is what happens to a sensible Malaysian who lives in Singapore for too long....inferiority complex and xenophobia about the world, split into wise chinaman, white chinaman and white masters and slaves.

Be a scientist and test your assumptions/belief by the testimony of real honest people. it takes more than this hallucinatory drivel to make any solid case against Christianity. Even Einstein could not imagine a personal God because he couldnt copy and improvised the cosmic idea as much as he did with relativity.


From: CCK
To: Long
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2011
Subject: Re: All in god's service....

Ya, you are the sharpest deitical chinaman in history - billions of chinamen including your ancestors over thousands of years could not get it but you can. And without your smart insurance policy they are all in hell now.

Which is why you should be the 'star' in the scientific test I suggested. I'd love to more than listen to your honest testimony after that 'round trip' experiment - like confucius said before your doll got nailed, talk is cheap, show it - that video clip would provide a more scientific prove. Those pictures of you, your ancestors and billions of past chinamen swimming in hell would be very convincing.

What more, with you being a deitical star in that new edition book, billions of future chinamen would feel very superior. So don't let your inferiority complex get to you (if that whiteman can do it you can), come star in my scientifc experiment.

Unlike you, Einstein also cannot get it hor? But just a few months back you said that he was a great example of why Jews are smarter than other races and therefore special. Now he has lost his smartness and specialness, and you chinaman are now sharper than him? Is it because I told you that he said people like you are child-like? Aiyah, that smart Jew cum scientist didn't know what he was talking about... you 50 year old child sharper.

And do you think that unto such as you;
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew:
God gave the secret—and denied it me?
Well, well, what matters it? Believe that, too.
- Rubaiyat, Omar Khayyam